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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 30 2005, 01:48 PM (1,162 Views) | |
| Bluediver | Jul 30 2005, 01:48 PM Post #1 |
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Just moved to Stuttgart after failing to settle at Atletico. Should we accuse the Madrid fans of driving him out, I wonder? |
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| liamgallagher | Jul 30 2005, 01:52 PM Post #2 |
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Doubt it, i don't think any other teams fans could treat him as badly as he was here. :( |
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| Blooboy | Jul 30 2005, 01:56 PM Post #3 |
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dear oh dear..... i've seen players treated worse at other teams. If the manager can't give the player a kick up backside who will? it's up to the player to try and succeed |
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| liamgallagher | Jul 30 2005, 02:01 PM Post #4 |
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I was actually talking about the way the 'fans' treated him not Brucie who had to sell him when he did. In my opinion, the 'fans' were a discrace to the guy when he was playing for us. I bet they are the same fans that applaud the opposition goalie when he runs towards the Tilton. ;) |
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| tobedeleted | Jul 30 2005, 02:40 PM Post #5 |
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i agree; i was ashamed at his treatment from some bone-heads around me. he's stayed for a year at atletico and scored a few goals too, as well as putting in man-of-the-match performances. his bad time with us co-incided with his mothers death, so good on all the patient blues fans who booed him.......... :angry: |
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| Paul Kimber | Jul 30 2005, 03:36 PM Post #6 |
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Shame about him i like him as a Guy and a Player would of still benn here if it wasnt for the fans. I Dont think hes been the same since his mothers death and the Injury he picked up at Madrid was another reason for his move to Stuttgart. |
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| mr penguin | Jul 30 2005, 03:39 PM Post #7 |
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The idea that a professional footballer would leave a club just because (some) of the fans booed him (sometimes) is laughable. |
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| Paul Tait's Tee-Shirt | Jul 30 2005, 03:52 PM Post #8 |
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In my opinion, the guy was a disgrace to the fans when he was "playing" for us ! Nil effort, Nil application, Nil Bottle, Nil contribution. Unfortunately not Nil on the wages or signing on fee front ! |
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| tobedeleted | Jul 30 2005, 03:52 PM Post #9 |
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i dont think anyone is suggesting thats the only reason;as i said, his mother died and he couldn't settle...didn't help though did it? and by some fans booing sometimes, i assume you mean the "sometimes" was at home? ;) |
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| Paul Kimber | Jul 30 2005, 03:58 PM Post #10 |
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He didnt want to sign for us in the first place anyway becuase he didnt want to move straight after his mother died. Shame when you read all the interviews and look back at the ol programmes like the Chelsea one which said Jesper was hoping to be a hero here. |
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| mr penguin | Jul 30 2005, 04:01 PM Post #11 |
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Actually, I think that a lot of people have suggested that that was the only reason (or the main reason at least). I didn't hear that much booing to be honest. I sit in the Railway end and the reaction to JG went something like this... First few games "Go on Jesper, go on my son, get it over.... Oh, unlucky Jesper son...." Next few games "Go on Jesper, go on.... oh...." Next few games "Come on Gronkjaer, you can take him, go on... oh..." Next few games "ffs Gronkjaer..." Final few games "ffs Brucie..." |
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| Feel_The_Forss | Jul 30 2005, 04:02 PM Post #12 |
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I to didn't hear much booing eitherr until his final few games. |
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| nick_p | Jul 30 2005, 04:03 PM Post #13 |
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Funny you should say that, because during that dire start to last season he was one of the few who didn't hide. He went through weeks of abuse but manfully kept showing for the ball, kept doing his job, which entailed getting crosses in (a stark contrast to Julian Gray, who was the fans' darling at the time, but who ironically put in less crosses per game than Gronkjaer managed decent crosses in a game - and yes, Gronks was averaging just two or three decent crosses in a game, so what does that tell you about Gray?). Gronkjaer only finally faded when it was blatantly obvious he was a scapegoat for the rest of the team's inadequacies. And this after I was dead against him coming here. :angry: |
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| charliedontsurf | Jul 30 2005, 04:11 PM Post #14 |
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Agree. Of course, at the time there were far bigger culprits contirbuting to our mediocrity - especially a Mr Savage. However, at that stage it was anathema in the ground and on these boards to even suggest that Savage was an over-hyped idiot whose faux '100% grafter'-headless-chicken mentality encapsualted everything that was wrong with the way we were playing at that time. 'But he did so much for us' everyone else would cry. Bullshite as far as i am concerned. I know this post is about Gronks, and people may fail to see the connection, but in my honest opinion Gronks bore the brunt of the blame because too many fans refused to recognise the faults in fans' favourites like Savage (ironic, considering they then criticise Bruce's inability to drop DJ.) Furthermore, the booing DID start early on - I remember being at Portsmouth and people next to me saying 'Told you he was crap.' back then, i though he didn't stand a chance. Too many people are prepared to listen to Mark Lawrenson and Alan Green. Going into this season, I would feel a lot better knowing we had Gronks on the Left and Pennant on the right than having to make do with what we have at the moment. |
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| tobedeleted | Jul 30 2005, 04:24 PM Post #15 |
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i mostly agree charlie, and there were plenty of people too willing to boo before even giving him the chance to settle imo, and its no coincidence to me that his best performances came away from home; anyone who went to the blackburn game, for example, saw just how devastating he could be with the ball played EARLY enough to turn the defender. i also feel svaage,dj,clem etc didn't set him free early enough in moves, its no use passing to a bloke surrounded by 3 players!! it'll be the same for gray now, and possibly pennant, if they dont get the right service..... ;) |
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| liamgallagher | Jul 30 2005, 04:28 PM Post #16 |
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Anyone remember the Norwich game? When he came on at half time for Melchiot? |
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| PartisanBCFC | Jul 30 2005, 04:44 PM Post #17 |
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you're full of it mate...that has to be the most ludicrous post I've ever read on here Gronkjaer was NEVER made a scapegoat because of other inadequacies in the team The Guy was simply cr@p And Blues fans had a right to get on his back because as bmvblue rightly said he had Nil-Contribution,Nil-Effort and Nil-Bottle,etc and his cross rate was pathetice Don't compare the guy to Julian Gray because he is a complete waste of space too And the death of his mother has nothing to do with anything...he was given time to mourn...Alan Shearer lost his father a couple of years ago,was given time off for funeral,mourning etc,bounced back within a couple of weeks and recaptured his awesome goalscoring touch almost immediately People deal with the loss of loved ones in different ways but we are talking about grown men here Chelsea sold Gronks on (what after one season???) we sold him after 4 months,Atletico have sold him on after 6 months but the Bundesliga is probably more his level as it's nowhere near on a par with The Premiership or La Liga. Their fans might not have a go so much as they don't seem to mind when a player is heading 'back toward his own goal' with the ball ...LOL Methinks Anelka Mark II ?????? |
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| beegeeblueboy | Jul 30 2005, 05:33 PM Post #18 |
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if we get a sell on for the Gronks transfer we should donate it to ladies team. Some might say that would be appropriate
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| Blooboy | Jul 30 2005, 05:37 PM Post #19 |
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couldn't agree more.... Gronks became a scapegoat for crap tactics. even though i've been scathing of Nafti, i just think some players arn't cut out for the Premiership. Gronks had flashes of what he could do. I don't think you can blame some fans for having a go. Bruce must have known something wasn't right with him. |
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| PartisanBCFC | Jul 30 2005, 05:53 PM Post #20 |
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Have to say Yes But I don't think Gronkjaer was good enough for the Blues Ladies team |
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| nick_p | Jul 30 2005, 06:09 PM Post #21 |
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Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion like I am with mine. Isn't it funny how I find half of your posts appear to be "full of it" too? :lol: |
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| PartisanBCFC | Jul 30 2005, 06:20 PM Post #22 |
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Yes,I might be full of it...but I like to think I can spot a good player when I see one....thus my praise for Heskey,Dunn,Cunningham,Upson,Pennant,Forssell,Lazaridis,Izzet and quite a few others My 10 year old daughter has better success crossing a football in our local park than Gronkjaer Yes,of course you have your opinion but did you ever wonder maybe HE was one of the reasons we had such a distastrous start to last season....he was a player I wasn't totally convinced with to begin with and it looks like I was proved right...I mean ,we sold him at a LOSS KRO |
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| Kyle-KRO | Jul 30 2005, 06:28 PM Post #23 |
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I think one thing we ALL can agree on is the fact that Gronks not working out proved to be a blessing in disguise in that it opened the door for us to bring in Pennant. KRO |
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| PartisanBCFC | Jul 30 2005, 06:34 PM Post #24 |
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Yes,I agree 100 per cent Kyle and the Savage departure will also be to our benfit as long as some of these 'so-called' Blues fans will get BEHIND our manager and board instead of getting on their backs KRO |
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| nick_p | Jul 30 2005, 06:53 PM Post #25 |
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I'd agree with that in so much as I didn't want him here either, but once he came I knew what we were getting. A lot of people seem to blame him solely for the start we had last season - that to me is grossly unfair. Gronkjaer did exactly what he did for other clubs, and to be fair to him he did provide crosses, however hit and miss they were. Gray wasn't crossing the ball at the time to my knowledge, and DJ certainly wasn't when he was coming on. The central midfield pairing were doing absolutely nothing - until Dunn came back against Blackburn away. Suddenly they got into the box in support of our forwards and we scored three goals. The problem is, Gronkjaer was our only outlet at that time - we had no imagination going forward (take the Palace game as an example - three of our midfield seemed happy passing the ball around in front of their midfield five, never mind their back four), so he was always going to be heavily marked and less effective. It's fair to criticise him as part of the problem, but many people appear keen to just scapegoat him and ignore the contribution - or lack of it - from our other players. His departure coincided with the return to fitness of Dunn (however briefly) and a change in personnel and approach that led us to finish the season strongly. I certainly wouldn't want him back on the right side - Pennant is a far better player, and I'm pretty sure I was hoping we'd get Pennant last summer, and disappointed when we didn't. I also agree with your comment about backing the manager and the board - I have my doubts about Bruce, but the moves made so far appear (to my untrained eye) to be the right ones, especially in boosting the backroom staff, which is something I've been calling for for a while. However, panicking after a few pre-season results is not the way forward - we took two squads to two separate locations today, so it was unfeasible to assume we'd have strength on the bench to cope with the loss of Cunningham and Heskey... |
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